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Post by am on Dec 12, 2012 23:15:56 GMT -5
I agree, I think Gerry needs to find better scripts and directors. I don't think the rom-com is going to do it anymore. I have not seen PFK yet. I plan on seeing it next week. I did like CM. I did think it was a good story. Hopefully OHF will get him some better numbers at the box office. I think the movie industry is changing and I think so many scripts are so predictable and boring.
I also agree that Gerry is a good actor and he needs to find scripts that show off that talent. Hope 2013 is a good year for him.
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Post by gersarchitect on Dec 12, 2012 23:28:49 GMT -5
I really hope he will stay away from rom coms. Most of the recent ones aren't really that good but they kind of have a guilty pleasure kind of audience. Doing one once in a rare while is probably ok, but Gerry has done too many in too short of a time. If he would have done just TUT (that's where I disagree with the article, I actually thought TUT was pretty good) he would have been fine. I think TBH was his biggest mistake. But I haven't seen PFK yet... He is great in action, thrillers, drama, dark comedies like RnR and even musicals... There's got to be something out there for him... I don't think we have seen the best of him yet and I hope he won't give up his career.
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Post by Arawen on Dec 13, 2012 5:00:52 GMT -5
Not at all Milo. We are being honest here, so I gave my honest response to your comment. Isn't that why you made it? So someone would respond to it? Personally, I like him. But I don't like everything he does. Does that make me a BAD FAN?? Simple truth is, I am here because I once witnessed something that made me have a great deal of respect for Mr Butler. I am not here to PERVE, to revel in his sexiness, to fantasize or to imagine I am his friend. I have had the opportunity to meet him, and have chosen not to. I have had occasion to ask for an autograph or take a photo with him, but I didn't choose to do so. I have NO NEED to have any sort of contact with him. I don't expect a damned thing other than that which I spoke of in my previous post. I'm actually a very good fan. I go to the theater multiple times in support of his films. I even purchase extra tickets that will go unused to help boost the box office. I buy ALL the DVDs, then I buy them again in BluRay. I spent over $2000 going to TIFF just to support the two incredible films he showed there. I also spent about 5 HOURS FILLING OUT FORMS IN SUPPORT OF MGP FOR BEST FILM AT TIFF. But I certainly am not going to sit here reading all this nonsense about how some of us are just jealous, or BAD FANS, etc. We are not. We are just reacting differently than you are to some of the difficult problems and surprising behavior Mr B has shown us this year. That's how God made us, and wouldn't it be a dreary and boring world if we all were to think alike? I am interested in the MAN as well as the actor. And the man has made some serious mistakes in judgement of late. I hope he is able to regain some sort of balance again, because I think he is ONE F'ing FANTASTIC HUMAN BEING. And a pretty damned fine actor too. So please stop sniping at members of this board. Please stop the veiled insults and passive/aggressive behavior. Please DO say how you feel about Mr B's films. public behavior and even his girlfriend if you like. But please stop psychoanalyzing his fans. You obviously have NO IDEA what you are talking about. PS: To our boardmistress Dianne.... My sincere apologies for this post, but damn, it gets so annoying when people defend Mr B by criticizing members who admire, respect, and care deeply for him. End of rant, I hope. Well said, both kissthegirl and gersarchitect!
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Post by pothos on Dec 13, 2012 12:35:22 GMT -5
I know Gerard is incredibly talented seen it with my own eyes in movies such as Dear Frankie.
I think the industry itself is in a mess and is actually trying to find it place in a new and rapidly changing digital age and I suspect I am alone I think it is far too expensive to visit the cinema against the likes of Netflix (and other on line services) DVD's and increasingly a faster turn around of movies to TV.
Then we come onto Gerard's career. If you are a newbie to Gerry world can I recommend that you try and track the archives held on various sites off hand I know .Net still has some (sorry Dianne) They have reviews of the early stage performances Gerard gave in the late 1990's. They are really good and even more amazing when you think how little experience and training he had had.
Then the early films and TV work started to arrive most are character rolls or the boyfriend roll but you can see his love of being an actor.
I think it is interesting that even in those days he was not what could be classed as a method or head type actor. Unfortunately for whatever reason these are the type of actors the critics adore.
Gerard I would state is an instinctive emotional actor who also relishes the physical challenges of a role.
I think he was unlucky about the timing of the Sherlock Holmes movie as that would have given him a foothold in a movie franchise. Franchises seem to be so important nowadays. Again with the industry taking risks less often attaching your name to one looks like a prudent career move.
I also read somewhere that Gerard is not a fan of the type of movies that I think her referred to as he two hours watching a dripping tap. Trouble here is that these are the ones that get the attention and are likely to succeed in getting made and to the screen. Since 2007 I have heard of Burns The Untouchables (prequel) Motor City Therese Requene (sorry for misspelling) all of which have failed to get made.
The TV option I have heard as a possible alternative is risky. Can you imagine the kicking he would get if a pilot failed to get optioned or his show was cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons and this is Gerard we are talking about who would have to be in one place for between 8 to 10 months. Has he ever committed himself to that length of time on a movie shoot let alone more seasons.
He seems stuck not able to push to the next level Clooney Pitt et al are all ahead of him getting first options on directors scripts etc.
I was staggered that MGP flopped in the US. I thought it was a nailed on hit for the USA but would struggle in non US markets. I thought even Sam's controversial life and career would all play in it's favour. A truly wonderful movie.
Coriolanus was always going to be a hard sell. Not only was it a Shakespearean piece but one of the least known and most troublesome plays. I think for me it is a masterpiece and although it hardly dented the box office got rare and rather wonderful critical reviews for Gerard. Oddly enough in the great shceme of things I think this will have done Gerard's career the most good unfortunately very few in the wider viewing community went to see it.
I cannot review either Casing Mavericks or PTF as they have not come to the UK
OHF could be a massive hit or do nothing I dread to think what happens if it is the latter.
No actor is on the scrap heap though. Micky Rourke went from Angel Heart to nothing to the Wrestler, Colin Firth went from ensemble actor in British Comedies to Oscar winner in just a couple of films.
Anything can happen.
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Post by craven on Dec 15, 2012 21:00:26 GMT -5
I've read everything that everyone is saying and agree, some of the selections he or who ever made them have not been good. But maybe when he originally looked at the script it did look like it could be something he'ld be able to deliver. TBH I think was his down fall for a lot of reasons. He bucked the studio and did not play along with Jennifer. MGP he was good I felt he gave everything to that movie - the handling of it was something I would never be able to figure out. Cor. he was great, here again not a movie everyone was going to want to see. CM suffered it could have been good but you could almost see where directions switch. Someone at the theater we went to said everyone loved the first part put then it just went down hill in the middle of the movie and never picked up interest after that. PTF if they just would not have had all those women and left it as a father wanting to reunited with his son. He was good and working with Noah the scenes I thought excellent. I look forward to OHF but already critics are putting it against WHD with CT and JF. It is almost like no matter what he does he can not catch a break. The critics just don't like anything he is going to do although some gave his acting skills in some movies high marks, it's never consistent. Will I remain a fan, yes. I read here that there is something in the air about Broadway - he would be great. We've often heard of HBO type movies the Pinkerton project - what happened with that? And I just saw that the Bricklayer is off the listing on IMDB or IMBD not sure what that is. He is ranked #25 as an actor so people care about you Gerry we need you to start caring. Bricklayer for anyone who read that book was great and would have been a different action movie with a bit of a love story involved. Why remove that one, it's almost like it was written for you. OK so who am I to offer advise but it's just my humble opinion. I don't want to see you fade away. You said too in an interview that you need to grow up stop showing that finger. And as far as your girlfriend in concerned let her walk beside you. I for one think she is beautiful because she makes you happy. oh well
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Post by fifiserafino on Dec 15, 2012 21:31:42 GMT -5
I agree with you Craven - and I would love to see The Bricklayer made into a GOOD movie but I guess the premise is a bit similar to OHF in terms of the ex-CIA agent character. I wish we knew what was next - Freedom Films still has Thunder Run on its site www.freedomfilmsllc.com//films/thunder-run
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Post by Audrey on Dec 16, 2012 11:16:01 GMT -5
I think that Gerry needs to focus on acting, to stop to be a producer for the moment. He needs to be involve in projects where directors wants him to play a role. Because I think that the huge problem about his movies his that he "fall in love" with them and he start to produce it, but I think that now he needs to be choose by a director. Also I think he needs to work as supporting actor, because often are the most interesting roles. And he needs to work with high level cast as is happened in Coriolanus, one of his best perfomance lately. In my opinion Gerry is that kind of actor that loves challenges and dealing with high-level actors spurring him to give his best. No more rom com or action movie ( except Sherlock Holmes 3 ), he needs good drama movies, and more of all he needs to come back in Europe, because he needs to work with his own accent, and in this moment , in my opinion, here he can finds more interesting projects than in the USA.
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Post by maryquitecontrary on Dec 16, 2012 13:26:00 GMT -5
I think that Gerry needs to focus on acting, to stop to be a producer for the moment. He needs to be involve in projects where directors wants him to play a role. Because I think that the huge problem about his movies his that he "fall in love" with them and he start to produce it, but I think that now he needs to be choose by a director. Also I think he needs to work as supporting actor, because often are the most interesting roles. And he needs to work with high level cast as is happened in Coriolanus, one of his best perfomance lately. In my opinion Gerry is that kind of actor that loves challenges and dealing with high-level actors spurring him to give his best. No more rom com or action movie ( except Sherlock Holmes 3 ), he needs good drama movies, and more of all he needs to come back in Europe, because he needs to work with his own accent, and in this moment , in my opinion, here he can finds more interesting projects than in the USA. I agree completely. That's it. But do you think a) he realises this and b) there is anyone around him to tell him this? I wonder.
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Post by Arawen on Dec 16, 2012 13:39:50 GMT -5
I think that Gerry needs to focus on acting, to stop to be a producer for the moment. He needs to be involve in projects where directors wants him to play a role. Because I think that the huge problem about his movies his that he "fall in love" with them and he start to produce it, but I think that now he needs to be choose by a director. Also I think he needs to work as supporting actor, because often are the most interesting roles. And he needs to work with high level cast as is happened in Coriolanus, one of his best perfomance lately. In my opinion Gerry is that kind of actor that loves challenges and dealing with high-level actors spurring him to give his best. No more rom com or action movie ( except Sherlock Holmes 3 ), he needs good drama movies, and more of all he needs to come back in Europe, because he needs to work with his own accent, and in this moment , in my opinion, here he can finds more interesting projects than in the USA. I agree completely. That's it. But do you think a) he realises this and b) there is anyone around him to tell him this? I wonder. I agree with you both. That´s what I wonder too, if he´s able to realize it himself. I truly hope so.
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Post by norwigi on Dec 16, 2012 14:04:31 GMT -5
I would love to see Gerry in a drama or romantic film. If not then maybe a psychological horror movie something along Stephen King or Alfred Hitchcock. He's hasn't done horror since Dracula 2000.
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Post by swansong on Dec 16, 2012 14:47:24 GMT -5
I would love to see Gerry in a period film again where his masculinity could be a huge asset. He's still young enough to play romantic roles-but he needs something with depth. A serious romantic story, maybe with tragic elements. I agree with many of you that the film industry is going through a major shift. I think it would be great for Gerry to headline a cable TV miniseries, where he could really dig down into a character and pull out a nuanced, artful performance.
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Post by Audrey on Dec 16, 2012 15:01:12 GMT -5
I think that Gerry needs to focus on acting, to stop to be a producer for the moment. He needs to be involve in projects where directors wants him to play a role. Because I think that the huge problem about his movies his that he "fall in love" with them and he start to produce it, but I think that now he needs to be choose by a director. Also I think he needs to work as supporting actor, because often are the most interesting roles. And he needs to work with high level cast as is happened in Coriolanus, one of his best perfomance lately. In my opinion Gerry is that kind of actor that loves challenges and dealing with high-level actors spurring him to give his best. No more rom com or action movie ( except Sherlock Holmes 3 ), he needs good drama movies, and more of all he needs to come back in Europe, because he needs to work with his own accent, and in this moment , in my opinion, here he can finds more interesting projects than in the USA. I agree completely. That's it. But do you think a) he realises this and b) there is anyone around him to tell him this? I wonder. I really hope so my dear
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Post by gersarchitect on Dec 17, 2012 19:33:54 GMT -5
All great ideas... I agree and don't have much more to add. If we can see this so clearly, I hope so can team Gerry!
Swansong, I absolutely agree about the period drama. It breaks my heart that Burns never materialized. That role was taylor made for Gerry...sob.
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Post by jhawk on Dec 17, 2012 19:55:19 GMT -5
I agree I want to see Burns too. I think it would be a really good thing to do Gerry. I hope you hear us.
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Post by gersarchitect on Dec 17, 2012 21:54:21 GMT -5
That link in the black box SD just posted broke my heart... I shouldn't have read it. And it is not fair! PFK is still playing and it wasn't that expensive to make so it shouldn't even be on the list. CM wasn't promoted at all so it had no chance....
I hope Gerry doesn't give up. I know this stuff is discouraging... But don't give up, Gerry!!! Get with a good director, do some indie movies, TV or supporting roles. Stay away from rom coms. You can do it!
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