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Post by Eloise on Jan 21, 2013 15:05:56 GMT -5
I just watched 7 Psychopaths and I thought all the time that Gerry would make a good Psycho! It would probably be someone as mean and snarky as Milo from The Bounty Hunter but I feel like Gerry would make a good fit!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 16:05:57 GMT -5
Gerry should do a horror film, the only one he did was Dracula 2000 and they are sure fire hits at the BO.
Jessica Chastin just got her 2nd #1 film at the B.O for the 2nd week in a row with her new Horror film Mama - $33 million! 4 day weekend total.
Honestly, Gerry should talk to her agent because they sure knew how to pick for projects! They have all been winners so far.
shellie
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Post by Eloise on Jan 21, 2013 16:08:08 GMT -5
Gerry should do a horror film, the only one he did was Dracula 2000 and they are sure fire hits at the BO. Jessica Chastin just got her 2nd #1 film at the B.O for the 2nd week in a row with her new Horror film Mama - $33 million! 4 day weekend total. Honestly, Gerry should talk to her agent because they sure knew how to pick for projects! They have all been winners so far. shellie I think the problem is not only Gerry's team but also Gerry's stubbornness. He always mentiones the connection he feels when he reads a script. So no matter what his team says, I think Gerry will barely pick up a project that doesn't match his personal likings.
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Post by pothos on Jan 21, 2013 19:25:41 GMT -5
Eloise at the end of the day that could be the actual crux of the matter. Gerard is an emotional actor rather than a analytical actor and I don't get the choices he is making at the moment. Heard a wonderful interview where Ann Hathaway mentioned that the cast had all won their roles through auditions apart from Jackman who asked to be auditioned even though he had the role already. This in effect means Oscar winner Russel Crowe auditioned for the part and won. Does Gerard actually audition anymore as I recall he said he did not on the Scott Mills radio show a couple of years ago.
It feels at least in the UK things are going backwards. I think a lot of the critics have it in for Gerard and Movie 43 as already proving to be a mistake as it feel like he is going to be the focus for a lot of the problems related to the movie. I really hope those on the board who are really looking forward to the movie enjoy themselves though.
I wish we could have a least one major interview that is not tabloid based around such idiotic questions such as were your abs real in 300. I would love to know where he feels his future in acting lies. Has he achieved what he wanted why has there been so many issues like poor marketing release schedules and well some really rotten movies to boot.
All I wanted were some good movies and a laugh to divert me and that is something that has evaded me for over a year.
I am either a mug or a masochist.
From a rather weary poster
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Post by Eloise on Jan 21, 2013 20:07:38 GMT -5
Exactly. I think Gerry should look out for roles and audition like most people. I don't ge why some people rather wait for their agents to pick up some scripts/wait for the film bosses to knock on their doors. There are so many talented people out there, Gerry should find a balance.
But I also think that Gerry tries to prove the world that he's versatile. Not the man for a typecast. I admire that and if I am being honest, I wouldn't know what to do if I was in his shoes.
Sometimes I believe that he's a lazy person (of course he can become obsessed, too and then he lives it every second) I remember how he said in an interview, that he read the script to the bounty hunter and ended up thinking "Harharhar, I would LOVE to play that role, Milo is my man!" I think he thought that way because Milo (who is similar to Mike - the ugly truth) is an easy role because he's himself, partly like that (even though he likes to deny it, I feel like he's pretty similar to them).
He connects and relates to his characters way too easily, therefore there's no challenge for him as an actor.
I hope that one day, he can find a role that can bring him personal and commercial success. He deserves it.
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Post by pothos on Jan 22, 2013 7:22:40 GMT -5
I also wonder if the problems emerging now are to do with decisions made since 300 was such a massive hit.
I do not think Gerard is lazy but he has been able to put a lot of movies in the top ten of varying quality. Rarely has the films got good reviews and he has really struggled in the UK to get any positive feedback from any of the critics, since his earliest indie movie such as OMK. However with the hits he maybe felt he was doing enough so was for want of a better phrase comfortable with his choices and tabloid marketing style.
Personally I do not think critics make the reputation of movies, actors, directors et al but they do have the power to damage. In some ways I think the fact he succeeded to get a Hollywood career going without their permission made him enemies. Also as previously stated he rarely does indie which is their benchmark for a legitimate UK actor. All this was not an issue until his recent movies started to fail at the box office. So PFK flopped CM was not released MGP and C made little commercial impact and his previous hits with the exception of HTTYD were everything they hated so now they are in a strong position to hammer Gerard with Movie 43 opening and all this at a time when he is vulnerable in box office terms.
Add to that the seemingly overnight abandonment from the general public (I will not go into some of my thoughts into that as some are controversial) and again not helped with the personal battering that is possibly coming over Movie 43 and the possible studio politics that could really effect the outcome of OHF and we are not even out of January.
Surely Gerard can not be happy with the way things are at the moment. I can almost guarantee he really enjoyed making Movie 43 and loved working with the cast and crew; but this is intertwined with his live for the moment mantra which is leaving him not seeing the bigger picture and months after he completed leaves him open to further damage. On a side note if Jackman loses his Oscar chance watch the media cite Movie 43 as a reason.
I can see that other actors have had bad spells;
Tom Hanks (Bonfire of the Vanities) Meryl Streep (The Lives and Loves of a She Devil) Colin Firth (The Last Legion) Ben Affleck (Gigli)
But in Gerard's case he does not seem to have a natural fall back option of a pre existing relationship with a respected Director, an inclination for indie where critics might start the ball rolling again and an increasingly puzzling (at least to me) and seemingly contradictory relationship with the tabloid end of the industry.
If there is a plan I don't get it. He possibly got comfortable and so did I. I think being a movie star is harder than being an actor because flop movies defines your career to a much great extent.
Sorry for the depressing tone could he get so fed up he leaves acting altogether. I keep trying to tell myself that this is the bottom and it is upwards from here on in but then more issues arrive.
Still trying to be positive still trying to see light at the end of the tunnel.
Can I just state that this is all from a UK perspective.
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Post by Eloise on Jan 22, 2013 11:01:15 GMT -5
I think if you have nothing to lose anymore, the only thing you can do is to gain.
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Post by norwigi on Jan 22, 2013 14:26:17 GMT -5
Exactly. I think Gerry should look out for roles and audition like most people. I don't ge why some people rather wait for their agents to pick up some scripts/wait for the film bosses to knock on their doors. There are so many talented people out there, Gerry should find a balance. But I also think that Gerry tries to prove the world that he's versatile. Not the man for a typecast. I admire that and if I am being honest, I wouldn't know what to do if I was in his shoes. Sometimes I believe that he's a lazy person (of course he can become obsessed, too and then he lives it every second) I remember how he said in an interview, that he read the script to the bounty hunter and ended up thinking "Harharhar, I would LOVE to play that role, Milo is my man!" I think he thought that way because Milo (who is similar to Mike - the ugly truth) is an easy role because he's himself, partly like that (even though he likes to deny it, I feel like he's pretty similar to them). He connects and relates to his characters way too easily, therefore there's no challenge for him as an actor. I hope that one day, he can find a role that can bring him personal and commercial success. He deserves it. I think that you're right elosie about Gerry needs to find a role/parts that brings him out of his comfort sone. His best works has been the most challenges ones like the Phantom of the Opera , 300 and MGP. When he did the POTO , he almost retired as actor , because it was a very difficult and taxing part. I can understand that he only takes roles that he likes or can relate. He should choose a part that is difficult to connect with. It would make him grow more as an actor. Maybe more indie films and be more look outs for a scrips that will show his true/massive talent as an actor.
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Post by Arawen on Jan 22, 2013 14:32:04 GMT -5
Really, he almost retired after POTO? I agree about the challenging roles, maybe it´s because then he feels that he really needs to put everything to it. Like he works his best under pressure.
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Post by Eloise on Jan 22, 2013 15:10:23 GMT -5
Wow I didn't know that! Can you link us the interview where he talked about almost retiring?
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Post by pothos on Jan 22, 2013 17:47:30 GMT -5
Norwigi thank you for that information.
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Post by jhawk on Jan 22, 2013 20:56:27 GMT -5
He does need to approach looking for a scripts that will take him out of his zone of comfort. Motor City was one I looked forward to see him do. Only one line at end of film. Everything on his ability to show it with his face & body. It would show his incredible talent. So disappointed its off the table now due to deadline conflict. He really needs to be very daring.
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Post by norwigi on Jan 23, 2013 11:35:36 GMT -5
Wow I didn't know that! Can you link us the interview where he talked about almost retiring? I found a small interview where he mentioned he thought about it. Not sure if i was joking though, www.bbc.co.uk/films/2004/12/08/gerard_butler_the_phantom_of_the_opera_interview.shtmlHere's a POTO video interview. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=iyfhQ44DZNo[/youtube] I can find some more if you guys want, I know plenty of good ones.
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