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Post by dawne27 on Jan 10, 2012 18:28:58 GMT -5
Kiss, from your mouth to God's ears. Let the word go forth Mr. B must be looked at as a serious actor. One that is deserving to be given good roles. Hang in there Gerry we will do the same. For those who leave his sites how sad I thought you would stick by him no matter what. Those who remain lets always ban together for him. "out of the mouth of babes"....the other night we engaged in a lengthy conversation with upstate new york 15 - 16 year old skater boys concerning gerry and his films.....they all agreed that 'gerard butler was a good acter but lately played in 'worse films'...they all agreed that gerry's forte was drama....one kid said that anything ancient (historical/period) seemed best suited.....and everybody said its his action stuff worked best! if you consider john wayne starred in 142 films and won an oscar late in his career whereas, samuel l. jackson is ranked as the top ten ' top gro$$ing' film acters making over 100 films in 20 years.....to date only 1 oscar nomination/no wins. between these two heavy hitters....thats over 242 films between them... less than 2% was a critical acclaim. so, in perspective..... its all in a days work ....what happens BETWEEN point A to point Z is what matters.
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Post by bluebird on Jan 10, 2012 23:22:04 GMT -5
It really does sting a bit as a fan. But does he really want an Oscar? Or would he be satisfied with just some appreciation from the critics? Or if his movies do well does he give a flying fook what the critics say?
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Post by greeneyedlove on Jan 11, 2012 16:01:06 GMT -5
I think a little respect is what is soooo needed! And way overdue! I mean seriously...how does one get a job as a film critic? I as a fan can decide for myself if I feel a movie is iconic, great, historic, or crap. I don't need the film critic...I just need his/her salary, and the ability to sit on me duff all day watching movies, and be able to say what I please on a film! Ooooh that takes brains!
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Post by Dianne on Jan 11, 2012 22:11:36 GMT -5
I think a little respect is what is soooo needed! And way overdue! I mean seriously...how does one get a job as a film critic? I as a fan can decide for myself if I feel a movie is iconic, great, historic, or crap. I don't need the film critic...I just need his/her salary, and the ability to sit on me duff all day watching movies, and be able to say what I please on a film! Ooooh that takes brains! I agree. There are so many films that I have liked that the critics have given the thumbs down too. A lot of times those kind of films become peoples favorites. Napoleon Dynamite is one of my guilty pleasures. Did you know that Scar Face came out to terrible reviews?
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Post by KissmeGerry on Jan 18, 2012 16:41:27 GMT -5
This is absolutely fascinating. It's no secret that there are very few people at the top that control everything, but it is pathetic when you watch an awards show and everyone is thanking one person - just recycling - same names, same faces, give me a break. Folks just follow along and believe it but there is always three sides to the story - yours, theirs, and the truth. It is hard to digest all the manipulation, politics, etc. I just enjoy watching movies and that's all it should be about, but we all know what makes the world go round. Lucky for us, we're on the outside and can comment and make our own judgments without being chased and taken advantage of. What ever happened to making movies for the purpose of entertainment?
We need some fresh blood!
Thank you for all the posts. I've been reading for an hour!
I remember at the Coriolanus premiere in Toronto, some of you may remember as well, that when the screening was over and people started to applaud, Fiennes looked utterly relieved. It was so clear to see that he was insecure and hopeful for a positive reaction. His reaction was that of gratitude and it was genuine. It really made an impact on me.
Just wanted to post and vent a little. So proud of Gerry, just when we thought we had him all figured out....MAD PROPS!
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Post by KissmeGerry on Jan 18, 2012 17:24:28 GMT -5
My thoughts were all over the place, please allow me to articulate.
With Coriolanus, it was clear that Fiennes poured his heart and soul into this project and for whatever it's worth, I thought it was a great piece. Granted not your mainstream film, but intense and artistic. Not to mention the performances that were first rate. We need to say so long to awards and ceremonies that adhere to the rules of the dictators of the business. It is about the craft and shouldn't be about the clout. It is sad and unfortunate.
The Film Festivals, small and big, well attended and not so well attended, here in North America and around the world, are the only veins in which to showcase this work. I'm sure there are politics involved at these fests as well, but at least we get to access to all types of work, regardless. That's when these films truly can shine.
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Post by gersarchitect on Jan 18, 2012 19:12:04 GMT -5
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Post by bluebutterfly on Jan 18, 2012 20:55:10 GMT -5
Cox's interview reminds me why i really do love hanging out with older people sometimes. they'll say all the stuff other people might dance around. they've been at it too long to give a damn anymore, in a really great way
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Post by Lola on Feb 5, 2012 20:01:00 GMT -5
On one of his recent tv appearences he seemed happy about Cor. because it's coming full circle for him. He was in the play Cor. back in the day, and now he was able to bring it to the big screen and Ralph approached him about the film. Also I think he's very proud of MGP because that film wasn't fictional, and it was a very serious work. And you know that film could change peoples lives if they gave it a chance..it makes you think. As long as he's happy with his work and his life that's all that matters.
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Post by bluebutterfly on Feb 5, 2012 21:14:00 GMT -5
i'm guessing recent events might've put a damper on his elation over the media treatment of coriolanus. let's hope his projects this year remind people he's an actor first.
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Post by doddi on Jun 19, 2012 11:42:02 GMT -5
Her story is very interesting, and I have read this whole thread over the weekend, but I have a hard time believing what this anonymous person is saying about info she got from an industry insider. Many people act as if they are in the know because they feel they have a hunch on what really transpired. Well maybe their hunch or intuition is correct, but the point is they have no proof and without concrete proof we have to be very careful about believing just any old person. That said, it’s quite possible JA indeed wanted to have her and Gerry play a couple for the sake of the movie. She has a track record of doing it. BUT, that doesn’t mean she put all this pressure on him that could have ruined his career. Seems a bit farfetched. This person says exactly what I thought she might be thinking. She observed JA over the years and from there she is maybe coming up with this story.
She said, “But, if you look at her objectively and read her material and watch her behavior, you would understand that I am not off the mark at all.”
I don’t know. Maybe she thinks that because she watched her over the years she has her figured out and therefore could come up with such explanations about what transpired between her and Gerry. Also she admits she hates her. What she says might be true, but I still think we need to take this story with a grain of salt, that’s all.
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Post by Dianne on Jun 19, 2012 11:44:13 GMT -5
That's an interesting perspective Doddi, thanks for commenting.
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Post by doddi on Jun 19, 2012 11:44:36 GMT -5
OMG, Dianne I feel exactly like you do about all of these HW know it alls. I hate Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney, and I somewhat dislike JA, although not as much as the other 3. And what you said about GB,” That's one of the things I like about Gerry. I don't know what his political views are and I don't care. He's not pushing anything down our throats. I love him for that,” is spot on. That’s exactly it. We don’t know; he doesn’t get involved in politics publically at all. I’m sure he has views but he keeps it them himself. He also doesn’t feel that if you don’t believe exactly like him then you’re evil, as the George Clooney crowd thinks. I remember he once said about filming MGP with religious people in the church that he respects them for standing up for what they believe. Their lifestyle might not be for him but he can respect people that have convictions, stand up for their beliefs, and will stick by those beliefs and falter when other people disparage them. I thought that was one of his greatest statements
He is such a decent man and fair too. I don’t think he is a radical of any type. He isn’t a radical leftist or a radical on the right. I think he is more in the center. Anyway, being a radical of any type is no good. People should walk the Golden mean, which means that even if you believe strongly in something you are still willing to see that the other side has a right to express their views without being called names just because you don’t agree with them. That interview he gave about his experiences around religious people was really the icing on the cake for me. He sounded so wise and level headed.
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Post by dawne27 on Jun 19, 2012 13:07:24 GMT -5
OMG, Dianne I feel exactly like you do about all of these HW know it alls. I hate Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney, and I somewhat dislike JA, although not as much as the other 3. And what you said about GB,” That's one of the things I like about Gerry. I don't know what his political views are and I don't care. He's not pushing anything down our throats. I love him for that,” is spot on. That’s exactly it. We don’t know; he doesn’t get involved in politics publically at all. I’m sure he has views but he keeps it them himself. He also doesn’t feel that if you don’t believe exactly like him then you’re evil, as the George Clooney crowd thinks. I remember he once said about filming MGP with religious people in the church that he respects them for standing up for what they believe. Their lifestyle might not be for him but he can respect people that have convictions, stand up for their beliefs, and will stick by those beliefs and falter when other people disparage them. I thought that was one of his greatest statements He is such a decent man and fair too. I don’t think he is a radical of any type. He isn’t a radical leftist or a radical on the right. I think he is more in the center. Anyway, being a radical of any type is no good. People should walk the Golden mean, which means that even if you believe strongly in something you are still willing to see that the other side has a right to express their views without being called names just because you don’t agree with them. That interview he gave about his experiences around religious people was really the icing on the cake for me. He sounded so wise and level headed. doddi! nice to welcome you aboard~ ((now that you mention it)) he is rather discreet about his political and religious viewpoints. it makes sense. he could very well be either extreme to the left or. a moderate conservative? but, will not get into 'it' with the public perspective. i agree - that is wise for someone in his station. better not to 'offend any' b/c afterall, no matter what our political views OR religious beliefs, when it comes down to it we're all in the same boat.
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Post by GillianL on Jun 19, 2012 14:16:48 GMT -5
I think we should acknowledge that there is a time and place for being a radical. If no one acted radically an entire sex and many different races would not have equal rights. Sometimes you have to make waves. Gerry chooses very carefully. Haiti's plight touched his soul and he publicly supported it.
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