greeneyedlove
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Post by greeneyedlove on Apr 26, 2012 13:54:58 GMT -5
I will gladly drive to Detroit again or Ohio for Gerry..But I extol the great virtues of West Michigan regardless of what our GOV Snidely Whiplash has done to our film Industry!
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Post by Dianne on Apr 26, 2012 16:05:48 GMT -5
I will gladly drive to Detroit again or Ohio for Gerry..But I extol the great virtues of West Michigan regardless of what our GOV Snidely Whiplash has done to our film Industry! LOL!!! Gov Snidely Wiplash! Ha you got that right girl. For those new members that may not know. I live in the Detroit Michigan area on the east side of the state and me and GEL were both extras in Machine Gun Preacher. Hey if he's ever in Detroit or Ohio let me know and we will meet up. I'm doubting Detroit anymore because of our dastardly Governor. Also the day I met Gerry I met GEL for the first time... We had no idea the other was going to be there.
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Post by Dianne on Apr 26, 2012 16:09:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately it is true that male actors usually have a good career going on to their mid to late 40ies while for female actresses their career seems to be over and done by their mid 30ies. Which is a shame. There are so many beautiful great actresses in their 30ies and 40ies out there.... But to Gerry's defense I have to say that more often than not he has age appropriate female co-stars. The only female actress he worked with that really was way younger than him was Emmy Rossum but she had to be that young. In fact in the book the age difference was much bigger even, Erik was in his 50ies with Christine being around 20. I agree with you that when GB himself was in his thirties, his female costars were roughly the same age, but: Playing the Field: age-difference - 12 years (him and Biel) Of men and mavericks: age-difference - 12 years (him and Spencer) And GB produced these films so he picks. Coriolanus: age-difference - 18 years (Fiennes and Chastain - she also played opposite Pitt who is roughly Fiennes' age) So it seems to be a recent trend or what? It's not because I want to discriminate - I am 31 myself. I guess I don't blame GB for following the herd. I just think it's a shame. And then again they wouldn't choose an ordinarily-looking actress to play the lead either, so I guess there are many factors that come into play... And Dianne, Meg Ryan was my big idol. Love her romantic comedies. That is such a shame. It's also absurd to discover how much they retouch pics of models and actress. Even though I know they do it, it still makes me feels bad about myself sometimes that I don't look like that... I also know for a fact then when filming some older actresses they put a film over the camera lens to make the actress look younger. It disguises wrinkles.
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Post by gersarchitect on Apr 26, 2012 19:01:13 GMT -5
Yes, the much younger actress as co-star is definitely going on but it is not a new trend, just look at old Hollywood when the likes of Boghart and Tracy who were way older than Gerry in their Hollywood prime were matched up with very young actresses.... I don't think 12 years age difference is that extreme...once it gets over 15 years I don't think it's right but it's going to happen a lot.... So far Gerry has mostly acted with fairly age appropriate co stars... We'll see how that goes on as he gets older.
If Motor City is going to shoot in Ohio, I so will try to be an extra...lol Maybe even Detroit if it's a weekend shoot. I still hope they have to shoot at least some of the movie in a city that looks like Detroit.... If not Detroit itself, maybe another Midwestern city.
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Post by canadia on Apr 27, 2012 0:58:35 GMT -5
Keep in mind two things. Are we sure she is going to be the love of interest of Gerry's character? Won't be the first time they have gotten that kind of thing wrong.
Secondly they were looking at younger actors for Gerry's role initially and she was cast with that in mind.
In terms of age appropriateness, I have not watched Phantom of the Opera yet, I have to be in the right mood, I got the DVD but it does freak me out that Emmy Rossum was so young. 15 years is a fair difference but really big when the girl is 17 and the guy is 32. Now that I have seen her in in Shameless and realize how good an actress she is, that helps.
But GA is right this is nothing new and at least there isn't a 20 yr, 30 yr difference.
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mak
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Post by mak on Apr 27, 2012 1:32:18 GMT -5
Thank you for your comments on the topic. Canadia, I didn't think about the initial casting in that movie, so that's a fair point. I don't include the Phantom of the Opera in this because the age-difference there was deliberate IN the story. I think the problem is when Hollywood tries to display 10-12 years difference as normal - even though it is not that big - and even though it may not be a new trend. My point is that I don't think the producer cast this way because they think "the age-difference is not that big..." but because of MONEY - because women over 40 (perhaps even 35) apparently don't represent what they want (a sex-symbol?), and apparently they don't draw in the same demographic. I just think it will only get worse if Hollywood confirms to the movie-goers that yes, a sexy female lead over 40 is unnatural - and above of, of course she has to be sexy and trim. So my focus is not so much the age-difference per se, as it is the discrimination again "older" actresses... And they have complained about it too! THAT was my point And I know that since this is about money, there is no way this is going to change...
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mak
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Post by mak on Apr 27, 2012 17:38:55 GMT -5
I agree with you that when GB himself was in his thirties, his female costars were roughly the same age, but: Playing the Field: age-difference - 12 years (him and Biel) Of men and mavericks: age-difference - 12 years (him and Spencer) And GB produced these films so he picks. Coriolanus: age-difference - 18 years (Fiennes and Chastain - she also played opposite Pitt who is roughly Fiennes' age) So it seems to be a recent trend or what? It's not because I want to discriminate - I am 31 myself. I guess I don't blame GB for following the herd. I just think it's a shame. And then again they wouldn't choose an ordinarily-looking actress to play the lead either, so I guess there are many factors that come into play... And Dianne, Meg Ryan was my big idol. Love her romantic comedies. That is such a shame. It's also absurd to discover how much they retouch pics of models and actress. Even though I know they do it, it still makes me feels bad about myself sometimes that I don't look like that... I also know for a fact then when filming some older actresses they put a film over the camera lens to make the actress look younger. It disguises wrinkles. Is that what they do in soap operas as well?
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Fiera
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Post by Fiera on Apr 29, 2012 14:39:24 GMT -5
Hmm, maybe I need to invent a film that'll make me look skinny and pretty. LOL!
Also the film incentives are capped at $25mil now. Which pretty much just leaves small indie films. Hung has been filming here, but I haven't heard about it being renewed yet, but I also haven't been paying attention as I don't watch it, though I did audition for it twice now. Apparently I'm not a good enough actress. I can play a drug dealer but not a gigolo's client. LOL!
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Post by Dianne on Apr 29, 2012 16:23:38 GMT -5
Hmm, maybe I need to invent a film that'll make me look skinny and pretty. LOL! Also the film incentives are capped at $25mil now. Which pretty much just leaves small indie films. Hung has been filming here, but I haven't heard about it being renewed yet, but I also haven't been paying attention as I don't watch it, though I did audition for it twice now. Apparently I'm not a good enough actress. I can play a drug dealer but not a gigolo's client. LOL! Hung has been cancelled.
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Post by scottishdreamer on Apr 29, 2012 18:24:58 GMT -5
I also think demographics comes in to play. The newer movies are looking for younger actors to get the younger crowd into the theaters. So Gerry is still young but they are looking for even younger costars if possible. The younger ones are also cheaper to hire.
It's not a new trend. Hollywood has been doing this age thing forever.
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Post by gersarchitect on Apr 29, 2012 19:47:46 GMT -5
If you put it like this I totally agree, mak. That youth craze in Hollywood annoys me a lot. And it is worse for women than male actors. The standard in movies seems to be that a woman is old at 35 and fat at a size 4. That is so wrong! For men it is tough too as we have seen with Gerry's weight struggle but age-wise men have about 10 more years to stay relevant...
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Post by canadia on May 5, 2012 13:35:27 GMT -5
Hung has been cancelled? Probably a direct result of the incentive cuts OLV on Michigan Film Updates laments "On the downside, a big-budget movie focused on a 1950′s murder mystery at the Ford Edsel plant in Michigan, called Motor City, is eying Berlin, Germany as its filming location, NOT Detroit where much of it is set. Amber Heard, Gary Oldman, and Gerard Butler are expected to begin filming Motor City in September." www.onlocationvacations.com/2012/05/03/michigan-filming-updates-beside-still-waters-looking-for-crew-category-six-shooting-this-summer-more/Sigh. On the topic of the younger actress situation.. Here is the thing though. It's Complicated a movie with Meryl Streep and her complicated love life was a box office hit. It is one of the funniest movies I have seen in a long time and someone gave me the DVD for a present, thank you!. Meryl Streep is one actress who can defy the age barrier in terms of box office success. One of the best romantic comedies I have also seen is the one with Dustin Hoffman and Emma Thompson, Last Chance Harvey? because yes people over 30 even over 40 and 50, who don't look like models do get it on and meet and fall in love etc etc. The hottest romantic movie/comedy/thriller in recent history to my mind is the remake of the Thomas Crowne Affair with Rene Russo and Pierce Brosnan , made back in 1999, which was also a box office success and they were no spring chickens when they made that movie, she was 45, he was 46. I still think Rene Russo was one of the hottest actresses ever. I see though from her IMDB page there is a lull from 2005 and 2011 but sounds like she is back working again.
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Post by gersarchitect on May 5, 2012 14:13:32 GMT -5
I agree, Canadia, there are a few actresses that are able to go against that youth craze, but they are very, very few in comparison to those who pretty much just disappear after 35-40. I mean look at the Halle Berries or Catherine Zeta Jones out there, still beautiful and talented but so much harder for them to find good leading roles. Even Sandra Bullock is starting to have a harder time finding good roles even though she was able to have a very successful career into her mid-40 ies. It's a shame, I wish it would be different. I wish the powers to be would realize that people over 30 love movies too and you can have successful movies like It's Complicated, which I loved as well, or Red which was hilarious and made a ton of money... The youngest male lead in Red was in his mid 50ies and the actress playing his girlfriend was in her mid 40 ies (Bruce Willis and Marie Louise Parker) and it worked well.
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Post by canadia on May 7, 2012 15:34:22 GMT -5
Yes GA, Red was a refreshing change, very funny, Helen Mirren rocks - Bruce Willis has an age appropriate wife in the Die Hard series too. I mean the Expendables had old action stars except Statham, the hip factor and that movie made a ton of money - gave Avi Lerner the money to make more movies with Gerry LOL.
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Post by elenoire on Jun 7, 2012 16:44:15 GMT -5
According to this article Gary Oldman and Amber Heard are nolonger attached to Motor City... www.variety.com/article/VR1118055187Dark Castle moves into 'Loft' Joel Silver will exec produce thriller By Jeff Sneider Joel Silver's Dark Castle Entertainment banner has acquired Anonymous Content's infidelity thriller "Loft." It has yet to be determined whether the film will be released through Warner Bros., where Dark Castle is currently based, or Universal, where Silver just inked a 12-picture distribution deal. Silver will now be credited as an exec producer on "Loft" along with Andrew Rona and Steve Richards. Additionally, Dark Castle is currently in production on "Getaway," a thriller that will star Ethan Hawke and Selena Gomez. Details on that project were not immediately available. Dark Castle is currently working with Emmett/Furla Films on Albert Hughes' actioner "Motor City," which has Gerard Butler attached to star, though Gary Oldman and Amber Heard are no longer involved with the project. As for "Loft," the Erik Van Looy-directed pic is an English-language remake of his own 2008 Belgian film. Edgy indie follows five married friends who share a loft where each brings his mistress. When the dead body of an unknown woman is found there, they begin to suspect one another of murder. Wentworth Miller, James Marsden, Karl Urban, Eric Stonestreet and Matthias Schoenaerts star alongside Rhona Mitra, Isabel Lucas, Rachael Taylor, Margarita Levieva and Kristin Lehman. Wesley Strick ("Doom") adapted Bart De Pauw's original screenplay. Anonymous Content's Steve Golin, Paul Green, Matt DeRoss and Adam Shulman produced along with original "Loft" producer Hilde DeLaere of Belgian banner Woestijnvis.
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