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Post by annettek on Apr 30, 2013 11:14:06 GMT -5
Loved the article. Thank you for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 11:20:19 GMT -5
You know I heard from a good source that Gerry's people don't like this article. Not to be critical but in the near past I questioned some of the moves Team Gerry has done to promote him. This is before OHF was released. OHF promotion has been phenomenal...KUDOS for them. But before that I just questioned some of their choices. I see nothing wrong with promoting an honest interview. Gives us a little insight into the man. Also, we older fans know that Gerry is flawed so this article is not bursting any bubbles. To Team Gerry if any wander by. Part of Gerry's appeal is he's a bad boy with a heart of gold and that's what draws a lot of his female fans... promote that. If I liked a squeaky clean image in the actor I choose to follow I wouldn't be obsessed with Gerry Butler. Dianne, I can understand why Gerry's people didn't like the article, I thought Gerry's honesty was lost in the condescending and ridiculing tone of the writer. The writers approach, I believe on purpose, was to trivialize his career and make him look like a an actor whose career is in trouble, her "elephant in the room". The personal insight into Gerry's life was not the problem with the article. The article to me was plain and simple written as a "hit job" on his career. My husband read it and said "OUCH" Gerry just got destroyed professionally. As fans we love learning new things about Gerry and we are not that worried about what the critics of his career say we already heard it before so an article like this one would not seem bad. If you read this article again, as someone that isn't familiar with Gerry it would be all about his career.
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Post by Dianne on Apr 30, 2013 12:02:00 GMT -5
You know I heard from a good source that Gerry's people don't like this article. Not to be critical but in the near past I questioned some of the moves Team Gerry has done to promote him. This is before OHF was released. OHF promotion has been phenomenal...KUDOS for them. But before that I just questioned some of their choices. I see nothing wrong with promoting an honest interview. Gives us a little insight into the man. Also, we older fans know that Gerry is flawed so this article is not bursting any bubbles. To Team Gerry if any wander by. Part of Gerry's appeal is he's a bad boy with a heart of gold and that's what draws a lot of his female fans... promote that. If I liked a squeaky clean image in the actor I choose to follow I wouldn't be obsessed with Gerry Butler. Dianne, I can understand why Gerry's people didn't like the article, I thought Gerry's honesty was lost in the condescending and ridiculing tone of the writer. The writers approach, I believe on purpose, was to trivialize his career and make him look like a an actor whose career is in trouble, her "elephant in the room". The personal insight into Gerry's life was not the problem with the article. The article to me was plain and simple written as a "hit job" on his career. My husband read it and said "OUCH" Gerry just got destroyed professionally. As fans we love learning new things about Gerry and we are not that worried about what the critics of his career say we already heard it before so an article like this one would not seem bad. If you read this article again, as someone that isn't familiar with Gerry it would be all about his career. Yeah, I suppose.
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Post by jhawk on Apr 30, 2013 19:01:15 GMT -5
Bravo Dianne, I agree. I liked that aspect of article.
I agree Ouch and it is a "hit" to his career, maybe she is upset because she has a crush on G and does not want to be nice because he never asked her out or hit on her. I can see why pull it, but I think she should be called out about it, the digs were unprofessional and childish by the author.
G is a very nice man and there is no reason to be so cruel and snarky.
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Post by kaly11 on May 1, 2013 9:30:12 GMT -5
You know I heard from a good source that Gerry's people don't like this article. Not to be critical but in the near past I questioned some of the moves Team Gerry has done to promote him. This is before OHF was released. OHF promotion has been phenomenal...KUDOS for them. But before that I just questioned some of their choices. I see nothing wrong with promoting an honest interview. Gives us a little insight into the man. Also, we older fans know that Gerry is flawed so this article is not bursting any bubbles. To Team Gerry if any wander by. Part of Gerry's appeal is he's a bad boy with a heart of gold and that's what draws a lot of his female fans... promote that. If I liked a squeaky clean image in the actor I choose to follow I wouldn't be obsessed with Gerry Butler. Dianne, I can understand why Gerry's people didn't like the article, I thought Gerry's honesty was lost in the condescending and ridiculing tone of the writer. The writers approach, I believe on purpose, was to trivialize his career and make him look like a an actor whose career is in trouble, her "elephant in the room". The personal insight into Gerry's life was not the problem with the article. The article to me was plain and simple written as a "hit job" on his career. My husband read it and said "OUCH" Gerry just got destroyed professionally. As fans we love learning new things about Gerry and we are not that worried about what the critics of his career say we already heard it before so an article like this one would not seem bad. If you read this article again, as someone that isn't familiar with Gerry it would be all about his career. I think what bothered me most was the fact that Gerry was so honest and open with her, he must have felt comfortable sharing such information in an interview. Then she turns around and does a hatchet job on his life's work. Sometimes I worry about him being too trusting and open giving the hate bloggers too much to work with. On the other hand it's one of the things I enjoy most about him, learning some of these little personal tidbits that makes him so endearing. That leaves me with the conclusion that this writer was a snake and betrayed his trust after he gave her a wealth of personal details. I agree with his people about this and I don't blame them for trying to protect Gerry from unscrupulous interviewers like this who think they are being cool trashing a man's career in the written article while undoubtedly flirting with him during the interview in order to gain information. Just my opinion and will admit that I read that article and devoured the lovely little details he shared and ignored the rest.
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Post by dawne27 on May 1, 2013 11:10:44 GMT -5
a nice interview and write-up. read the article X2 just to ensure I understood the overall gist of what this writer (ross)was trying to convey. even though appearing slightly condescending (which is typical for contemporary journalism) left me with the impression they did infact 'like' Gerry very much as a person and 'tried' to 'avoid' the elephants?? okay....so, what extactly are the 'elephants'?....critiques of past films? this is no surprise. this is not new news and I do believe the writer was rather smart to avoid rehashing ...regurgitating 'old news'...so, now...what else is new? perhaps, THIS is what Gerry's team dissed?? the fact this writer, who is joyful about their work & uses words well....only recapped what was already out there....and NO MENTION of current success?? just innuendos of the past and then current smittancy of gerrys forever cutness??? ((snooze)) beg my pardon, but honestly...each interview gerrys gives is readworthy for me personally bc I am interested in him as a person...but, the writers, if you've noticed, lamely ask the same questions and reveal the same information. the question is dull....not the answer. i'd like to see challenging and thought provoking questions for Gerry. really explore his impressions on life....go a little deeper. this man has traveled. he has explored inner worlds AND outter worlds. he has enjoyed conversations and established relationships with ALL WALKS OF LIFE, for Gods sake. NOT to play armchair pseudo-psychiatrist (that is way too much and I really don't like when people have the gaul to get that personal. i'd like to see a writer expose their entire being and history for the world to weigh and measure! humph)
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Post by sienari on May 1, 2013 21:31:23 GMT -5
Dianne, I can understand why Gerry's people didn't like the article, I thought Gerry's honesty was lost in the condescending and ridiculing tone of the writer. The writers approach, I believe on purpose, was to trivialize his career and make him look like a an actor whose career is in trouble, her "elephant in the room". The personal insight into Gerry's life was not the problem with the article. The article to me was plain and simple written as a "hit job" on his career. My husband read it and said "OUCH" Gerry just got destroyed professionally. As fans we love learning new things about Gerry and we are not that worried about what the critics of his career say we already heard it before so an article like this one would not seem bad. If you read this article again, as someone that isn't familiar with Gerry it would be all about his career. I think what bothered me most was the fact that Gerry was so honest and open with her, he must have felt comfortable sharing such information in an interview. Then she turns around and does a hatchet job on his life's work. Sometimes I worry about him being too trusting and open giving the hate bloggers too much to work with. On the other hand it's one of the things I enjoy most about him, learning some of these little personal tidbits that makes him so endearing. That leaves me with the conclusion that this writer was a snake and betrayed his trust after he gave her a wealth of personal details. I agree with his people about this and I don't blame them for trying to protect Gerry from unscrupulous interviewers like this who think they are being cool trashing a man's career in the written article while undoubtedly flirting with him during the interview in order to gain information. Just my opinion and will admit that I read that article and devoured the lovely little details he shared and ignored the rest. I agree completely with your observations.
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Post by craven on May 2, 2013 1:10:29 GMT -5
Dianne; I have to agree with those who commented before me. I've reread this article a few times now and still I have to say, Gerry was so open that yes some people could say it could be used against him. But Gerry being Gerry an open and honest person is what I like. As someone else said the only elephant in the room was the writer. She did seem like she was not a big fan and he deals with these people all the time. I was very glad that he opened up and gave us a glimpse of himself that we don't always get to see. I wish his "people" would always looks out for his well being just as the people who frequent this site seem to do.
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Post by catty on May 2, 2013 4:22:22 GMT -5
Gerry must get interviewed by many who are not fans -of him or his movies. ( i know ...I will never understand anyone who is not a fan!!..anyway..) A professional journalist would keep their opinions of Gerry to themselves, unless they are being paid to review the movie & give an opinion. This interviewer made it clear she is not a fan of action films and did not like the movie but she still had a job to do and that was interview Mr Butler. Her opinion of his movie is irrelevant . She got him to open up and even us as fans discovered something about Gerry. It was a good interview and I think she did her job and got an great interview. ( Gerry has done hundreds of interviews and we pick this one as a standout). Was she disrespectful ? I don't think so, she was honest (she didn't like the film !) and you can't hang her for being honest. Not sure Gerry would even care what she thinks of the movie ( 100M+..ha.ha)
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Post by catty on May 2, 2013 5:03:56 GMT -5
An example of a unprofessional reporter is Lainey.
Her whole blog is her opinion of who is cool and not cool. maybe that is what she is being paid for, I don't know? ..but I can never take her seriously when she discusses movies or actors. If she does not like you, she will make fun and put down everything - and she gets nasty personal.
Nasty. yep. She is so nasty about Gerry it makes me angry !
Compare the two interviewers and I know who I would want prefer.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 7:16:08 GMT -5
An example of a unprofessional reporter is Lainey. Her whole blog is her opinion of who is cool and not cool. maybe that is what she is being paid for, I don't know? ..but I can never take her seriously when she discusses movies or actors. If she does not like you, she will make fun and put down everything - and she gets nasty personal. Nasty. yep. She is so nasty about Gerry it makes me angry ! Compare the two interviewers and I know who I would want prefer. This writer describes herself in the article as a “dissembler” definition “a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives” 1. To disguise or conceal behind a false appearance. 2. To make a false show of; feign. 3.To disguise or conceal one's real nature, motives, or feelings behind a false appearance. Unfortunately, she is just as unprofessional as a “Lainey”. Gerry was so "honest" it was unfortunate that the writer didn't have the same standard. It was a awesome article in learning more about Gerry but it also made me so sad knowing that this women really didn't care about that, she seemed more interested in just being a "dissembler".
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Post by Dianne on May 2, 2013 8:52:40 GMT -5
An example of a unprofessional reporter is Lainey. Her whole blog is her opinion of who is cool and not cool. maybe that is what she is being paid for, I don't know? ..but I can never take her seriously when she discusses movies or actors. If she does not like you, she will make fun and put down everything - and she gets nasty personal. Nasty. yep. She is so nasty about Gerry it makes me angry ! Compare the two interviewers and I know who I would want prefer. This writer describes herself in the article as a “disassembler” definition “a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives” 1. To disguise or conceal behind a false appearance. 2. To make a false show of; feign. 3.To disguise or conceal one's real nature, motives, or feelings behind a false appearance. Unfortunately, she is just as unprofessional as a “Lainey”. Gerry was so "honest" it was unfortunate that the writer didn't have the same standard. It was a awesome article in learning more about Gerry but it also made me so sad knowing that this women really didn't care about that, she seemed more interested in just being a "dissembler". This is a great post Shellie!
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Post by Dianne on May 2, 2013 8:55:23 GMT -5
I'm glad I gave this article it's own thread. It makes for awesome discussion.
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Post by dawne27 on May 2, 2013 16:59:42 GMT -5
LOL...'dissembler'... yes, this writer did mention that a few times. so what now, a fucking lying devil pfst!
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Post by Auntie D on May 2, 2013 18:41:08 GMT -5
Dissembler...."Ju keep using dat word. I dunna think it means what you think it means."
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