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Post by canadia on Mar 20, 2011 8:23:37 GMT -5
Actually I think Gerry has had relationships with co-stars earlier in his career and admitted so but he said learned from that, most people believe he is speaking in particular about Attila.
It is a temptation and trap I can see that many young actors get into, look at Robsten, for example, quite understandable when you are spending months with the same group of people esp when you are in remote locations and there is way too much down time on movie sets. If you must fling do it with someone in the crew I guess.
Though the reality is many veteran stars also end up in relationships with their costars and many end up happily married, for a time others don't, whether they fall in love on set or manage to wait until the film is done but it is a very dangerous thing becausee if it goes sour WHILE you are fliming, it could conceivably ruin the film if one party does not have the maturity to deal with it. If your characters end up breaking up then maybe you channel those emotions and it will work but very risky. Didn't Julia Roberts fall in love with her camera man husband on set?
I still remember us Gary Oldman fans thought it was so romantic when Gary Oldman and Isabella Rossellini fell in love on the set of Immortal Beloved, it was a romantic movie, the fans all thought Isabella was a good match, and their relationship did last for a few years, they were even engaged but that did not work out. However that was pre social networking and no one knew they were a couple until the film ended and he moved into her apartments in NYC. Gary Oldman met his first wife on a movie set in the UK. I always liked her too, Lesley Manville, but he left her for Uma Thurman. Now he met her when filming State of Grace in NYC with Sean Penn and Ed Harris but through the director. Bad boy. After his third divorce, he was dating a pretty Welsh model for five years after his divorce, she was half his age and an "aspiring" actress, no one was sure why that ended, and his current wife is a jazz singer, she seems to be a very lovely woman, never mind she's about 20 years or more younger than him but she acts more mature than her years, wise old soul type.
When Gary Oldman is marrying them half his age, with the exceptions of his first wife, same age and Isabella, older, not sure you can expect much different from Gerry. I love Gary as an actor but let's face it he is and never was as attractive as Gerry but he has the charm and different kind of sexiness that can still pull the younger women, many women of course find talent sexy just as much as looks, but he also very much prefers women with intellect, his male friends tend to be his age and intellectual as well, like Julian Schnabel the artist - the exception was Wife No. 3 but then that was a case where she trapped him when he was vulnerable, foolish boy.
However I think Gerry just has a quicker learning curve than some actors, other actors and I think including Gerry realize on many levels it is probably best not only not to get involved with your co-stars but just don't date actresses period especially one whose career is as busy as yours. You get the couples where one is more successful and the other can handle it, you are away from each other too long unless one is willing to give up their career or try to make it work so you are together. Never mind the paparazzi attention. In the end likely not worth the effort in most cases.
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Post by mimsie1 on Mar 20, 2011 8:32:44 GMT -5
Someone on JJ just posted where Gerry and Jessica are staying in Shreveport, the hotel and all...then made a note that Gerry would probably have to move out of the hotel, may rent a house while he is there. It breaks my heart to think that Jessica may live with him in that rented house, but I expect that she will. They seem to be joined at the hip since they got to Shreveport. I'm trying not to make too much of what we have heard to now, but it's kind of difficult....too much, too soon.... Staying in the same hotel does not mean staying "together". As for the rest ... who knows where Gerry may move to. Do not get swept up by the gossip on sites like JJ. There are too many people writing their own scenarios based on nothing other than tweets and facebook sightings. Too many stirring the pot in order to cause issues for others. Joined at the hip? By being seen eating together with others in attendance? I think it's important to keep a sense of proportion in this whole thing. We are less than a week into when the cast and crew arrived in Shreveport and there are weeks more until the movie is wrapped. I really do think that things are getting spun out of all reason - for no reason.
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Post by canadia on Mar 20, 2011 8:45:17 GMT -5
That is hysterical Mimsie because they are in the same hotel you can import any meaning in that other than the fact that the producers book the space for all the cast and crew in the same place. Now to be fair they may book the crew into cheaper digs but you get a deal on group rates please.
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Post by Mareksgirl on Mar 20, 2011 8:53:23 GMT -5
Mimsie1, I hope you, as well as others, are right on this. I'm trying very hard to keep things in perspective, and I'm aware that there are trolls on JJ, as well as other sites, that deliberately try to upset the fans with total fabrications and exaggerations. The latest on JJ is that they have been looking at rentals and apartments together in Shreveport. The thing is, though, we don't really know how much of this is true and how much IS fabricated. There's always the possibility of a ring of truth to at least some of it, we can't close our minds to all of it. As with Gerry, always, it's a wait and see thing...I just hope I AM making more of this than there is...we'll just have to wait and see. Gerry has never been unprofessional on a movie set before, but there is always the first time, especially when the heart is involved. Someone here brought up a possible headline we may see of Gerry helping Jessica mend her broken heart. That would not surprise me for him to "be there" for her, to talk things out...but it's generally in those kind of situations that things start to change, and friendly hugs turn into more passionate things...that's just human nature. It would be well out of either of their control...and that's a very real possibility that can't be shrugged of as "it's not going to happen..." Just as sure as you say something is not going to happen...BAM...IT HAPPENS...I'm just trying to be realistic here, not snarky or unreasonable. None of us really know anything except the tweets we get of sightings...they really tell us nothing except where he chose to eat dinner that night - though she has been with him on most of his outings....and I know Uma has been with them at least once, as well...but that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Like I said, just trying to be a realist here, and not close my mind to anything that is possible to happen. You can't control your heart sometimes....
Peace out... Mareksgirl.....
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Post by mimsie1 on Mar 20, 2011 9:06:59 GMT -5
That is hysterical Mimsie because they are in the same hotel you can import any meaning in that other than the fact that the producers book the space for all the cast and crew in the same place. Now to be fair they may book the crew into cheaper digs but you get a deal on group rates please. I hope that you don't mean that I am hysterical. Even at only a week into when the cast and crew arrived in town I am fed up to here with all the speculation, when in reality there is no real information at all. Why on earth folks just can't take some time to think about what is actually being written by those who have shared sightings, etc. I do not know. Too many are trying to push buttons and when I see this happening it makes me very annoyed. I realize that many have concerns but it's important to try to be level headed and not get carried away every single time that a woman's name is written in the same sentence as Gerry's. Here endeth the rant.
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Post by mimsie1 on Mar 20, 2011 9:15:06 GMT -5
Mimsie1, I hope you, as well as others, are right on this. I'm trying very hard to keep things in perspective, and I'm aware that there are trolls on JJ, as well as other sites, that deliberately try to upset the fans with total fabrications and exaggerations. The latest on JJ is that they have been looking at rentals and apartments together in Shreveport. The thing is, though, we don't really know how much of this is true and how much IS fabricated. There's always the possibility of a ring of truth to at least some of it, we can't close our minds to all of it. As with Gerry, always, it's a wait and see thing...I just hope I AM making more of this than there is...we'll just have to wait and see. Gerry has never been unprofessional on a movie set before, but there is always the first time, especially when the heart is involved. Someone here brought up a possible headline we may see of Gerry helping Jessica mend her broken heart. That would not surprise me for him to "be there" for her, to talk things out...but it's generally in those kind of situations that things start to change, and friendly hugs turn into more passionate things...that's just human nature. It would be well out of either of their control...and that's a very real possibility that can't be shrugged of as "it's not going to happen..." Just as sure as you say something is not going to happen...BAM...IT HAPPENS...I'm just trying to be realistic here, not snarky or unreasonable. None of us really know anything except the tweets we get of sightings...they really tell us nothing except where he chose to eat dinner that night - though she has been with him on most of his outings....and I know Uma has been with them at least once, as well...but that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Like I said, just trying to be a realist here, and not close my mind to anything that is possible to happen. You can't control your heart sometimes.... Peace out... Mareksgirl..... As always we can only wait and see what unfolds. You mention JJ. I've seen the post you refer to and have come to the conclusion that it has been written to "expand" on the random facebook mention by the hotel worker. This is what the clever trolls do. They take a small comment by another and write something guaranteed to plant the seeds of doubt. I'm not going to split hairs about the number of times there have been tweets about shared meals (with others I might add). I have no idea of the true situation but then I'm equally sure that neither do the trolls. All I know is that by the time this movie shoot is over more than a few will have some grey hairs, me included. Either that or I'll have a few bald patches where I've torn some out.
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Post by Leppardlady on Mar 20, 2011 9:41:32 GMT -5
What's going on here is that the trolls are trying to rile his fans (and possibly hers, too), it's a game to them to see how many of their fans get upset about them hooking up and it gives them the attention they crave. I choose not to listen and shrug it off, it's all meaningless until Gerry himself comes out and says he's in a relationship with her. When that happens, I will believe it.
I'm making a pact to laugh off and make fun of any post mentioning Gerry and Jessica hooking up, this will annoy the trolls immensely if we don't give them the responses they want. Who's with me?
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Post by verozero on Mar 20, 2011 10:01:37 GMT -5
I'm with ya Lepp!! Listening to and heeding every bit of info about Gerry and relationships will drive you mad! Like you said, don't think anything of it until he comes out and says it himself... Until then, it's all fluff and hearsay...
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Post by LongTimeLurker LTL on Mar 20, 2011 10:17:45 GMT -5
Again, I have not been "into him" as long as others, but the whole rental house is being taken waaaaaay out context. Didn't he eventually rent a house in Serbia for Coriolanus? Wasn't he rumored to have rented a house in for MPG? SO renting one now WOULD BE UNUSUAL. He may spend time with cast & crew to familiarize himself with them, but once filming starts, he isolates himself for better control of his environment. They just put a movie star's location all across the internet last night after 4-5 days in one hotel, and now I'm sure everyone is going to be hunting him down. So wouldn't you move if you could, too? And also again, ONE PERSON (maybe 2) on JJ is CHANGING THEIR MONIKER (or name, sock), then writing these loooong posts about G and JB that are almost immediately followed by doubt from others, then proof otherwise. If everyone insists on going over there to get info, read ALL of the posts (if you dare) about that particular subject. It's not JARED himself providing that info, it's not even fans/witnesses, it's anonymous shit-kickers who know *just* enough about G to know what to say to start and argument or cause a stir. They take a pebble of truth (they're in the same hotel, he's possibly renting in the future), and build a mountain (that must mean they're shacked up, will be moved moving in) . I'm not trying to lecture people , but when misinformation gets dragged over here, it actually perpetuates the spreading of outright lies, and further entertains the LOSERS who are setting them in motion. I like it here. The air is clear. And I'd like it to stay that way, is all .
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Post by mimsie1 on Mar 20, 2011 10:42:06 GMT -5
I'm with you Lepp, but it's a fine line and we have no wish to encourage the trolls if they start to come into the newsbox. It may be better to ignore them.
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Post by mimsie1 on Mar 20, 2011 10:44:28 GMT -5
Again, I have not been "into him" as long as others, but the whole rental house is being taken waaaaaay out context. Didn't he eventually rent a house in Serbia for Coriolanus? Wasn't he rumored to have rented a house in for MPG? SO renting one now WOULD BE UNUSUAL. He may spend time with cast & crew to familiarize himself with them, but once filming starts, he isolates himself for better control of his environment. They just put a movie star's location all across the internet last night after 4-5 days in one hotel, and now I'm sure everyone is going to be hunting him down. So wouldn't you move if you could, too? And also again, ONE PERSON (maybe 2) on JJ is CHANGING THEIR MONIKER (or name, sock), then writing these loooong posts about G and JB that are almost immediately followed by doubt from others, then proof otherwise. If everyone insists on going over there to get info, read ALL of the posts (if you dare) about that particular subject. It's not JARED himself providing that info, it's not even fans/witnesses, it's anonymous shit-kickers who know *just* enough about G to know what to say to start and argument or cause a stir. They take a pebble of truth (they're in the same hotel, he's possibly renting in the future), and build a mountain (that must mean they're shacked up, will be moved moving in) . I'm not trying to lecture people , but when misinformation gets dragged over here, it actually perpetuates the spreading of outright lies, and further entertains the LOSERS who are setting them in motion. I like it here. The air is clear. And I'd like it to stay that way, is all . Valid points LTL.
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Post by gersarchitect on Mar 20, 2011 10:45:15 GMT -5
Again, I have not been "into him" as long as others, but the whole rental house is being taken waaaaaay out context. Didn't he eventually rent a house in Serbia for Coriolanus? Wasn't he rumored to have rented a house in for MPG? SO renting one now WOULD BE UNUSUAL. He may spend time with cast & crew to familiarize himself with them, but once filming starts, he isolates himself for better control of his environment. They just put a movie star's location all across the internet last night after 4-5 days in one hotel, and now I'm sure everyone is going to be hunting him down. So wouldn't you move if you could, too? And also again, ONE PERSON (maybe 2) on JJ is CHANGING THEIR MONIKER (or name, sock), then writing these loooong posts about G and JB that are almost immediately followed by doubt from others, then proof otherwise. If everyone insists on going over there to get info, read ALL of the posts (if you dare) about that particular subject. It's not JARED himself providing that info, it's not even fans/witnesses, it's anonymous shit-kickers who know *just* enough about G to know what to say to start and argument or cause a stir. They take a pebble of truth (they're in the same hotel, he's possibly renting in the future), and build a mountain (that must mean they're shacked up, will be moved moving in) . I'm not trying to lecture people , but when misinformation gets dragged over here, it actually perpetuates the spreading of outright lies, and further entertains the LOSERS who are setting them in motion. I like it here. The air is clear. And I'd like it to stay that way, is all . You are ABSOLUTELY right LTL. Please girls, stay away from the comments on JJ, or if you read through them for the pictures, just please do not take them seriously. If you would believe all that is written there Gerry is a gay womanizer that has been married and divorced with three kids. I used to read that stuff but it would just drive me crazy so I stopped. Anybody can make up something on that site. It is not monitored. Yes, it is totally possible that Gerry and Jess could hook up, but I have not seen any evidence of that yet at all. Last night Gerry was out and about obviously checking out local women and having a lot of fun without Jessica. As long as there isn't real proof by a reliable source of Gerry and Jess I wouldn't waste any more thought on it.
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Post by LongTimeLurker LTL on Mar 20, 2011 10:50:03 GMT -5
Sorry about all of the typos in that last one. I'm not that upset (I know this stuff goes with the territory), but my house is a bevvy of activity right now. I think I'll take a cue from G and move to a quieter location.
My post SHOULD say: "Wasn't he rumored to have rented a house in Michigan for MGP? SO renting one now WOULD NOT BE UNUSUAL."
and "to start an argument, cause a stir."
and finally "...(...they're moving in together)."
And again, I'm not saying "something" could not blossom. I'm saying from what has been said and seen from people who are actually in Shreveport and/or LA (that loon on JJ is a "friend of a friend" type liar), no one and nothing has indicated anything more than professional and platonic between the two RIGHT NOW.
Anyway, has Biel even been mentioned/seen out with him last night as of RIGHT NOW?
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Post by gersarchitect on Mar 20, 2011 11:00:04 GMT -5
Sorry about all of the typos in that last one. I'm not that upset (I know this stuff goes with the territory), but my house is a bevvy of activity right now. I think I'll take a cue from G and move to a quieter location. My post SHOULD say: "Wasn't he rumored to have rented a house in Michigan for MGP? SO renting one now WOULD NOT BE UNUSUAL." and "to start an argument, cause a stir." and finally "...(...they're moving in together)." And again, I'm not saying "something" could not blossom. I'm saying from what has been said and seen from people who are actually in Shreveport and/or LA (that loon on JJ is a "friend of a friend" type liar), no one and nothing has indicated anything more than professional and platonic between the two RIGHT NOW. Anyway, has Biel even been mentioned/seen out with him last night as of RIGHT NOW? Yes, I figured what you wanted to say As a guest you can not correct your posts? I didn't know that. As a member you can hit "modify" and correct typos... which I would be lost without I don't think Jess was with him last night, it seemed to me from the tweets and the pic that Gerry wanted to be free to flirt and check out women which is harder to do if you're out with a woman even if she's just a friend.
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Post by LongTimeLurker LTL on Mar 20, 2011 11:17:40 GMT -5
Thanks gersarchitect! I just wanted to make sure I didn't come across as (too much of) a psycho! I don't see a "Modify" option around, unless I'm missing it. He was alone, or at least seen without Biel, last night. And the very first tweet of the night went on to say that he was staring at her for a while (and even that may or may not be true). This is not what people in a burgeoning *serious* relationship do.
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